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May 1, 2015 , , ,

Cameras and Films

There are 6 films available today in The Dyatlov Pass foundation. There was one more film but it is lost. They have developed it and the pictures are exist but the film itself is missing. Apart from the well known pictures available on the Internet, the films have some rather srange shots which we will discuss below.

The exact number of the cameras in the group is not known. The inventory of the scene lists  3 cameras and there is one tetimony of yet another camera.

The camera № 488797 (Krivonischenko’s) was found with it’s color filter broken and it was attached to a tripod.

We know from the Criminal Case that the tent was pitched at around 5 p.m. At 7:42 pm according to the  weather data available there was a Moonless night there. It is interesting that the students still used their cameras after the darkness fell upon the ground. All the cameras were found in the tent like if they were put handy, not in their backpacks. Some say that the last shot of the group (below) was made without using a tripod. I don’t know if we can state this for sure…

Anyway for some reasons Krivonischenko attaches his Zorky camera to the tripod probably already after the tent was set and the darkness felt around. What is possible to shoot in a complete darkness? His camera’s film had 36  frames and 34 of them were already used by that time.  Had it been the arragement for morning shooting then Krivonischenko would rather have inserted a new film into his camera for a proper footage.  Thus he attached the tripod to his camera in order to take a picture of something right away, trying to catch the moment.

From the inventory (the Criminal case) ─

Zorky № 486963. 27 shots. The case has deep scratches. The belt is broken (supposedly belongs to Slobodin).

Zorky № 55149239. 27 shots. Definitely belongs to Zolotarev because 7 month after the investigation was terminated the camers was given back to his mother and she confirmed it was her son’s item.

There is a testimony of Сaptain Chernyshov (a rescue team part) that yet another camera was found outside the tent, on its edge together with a flash light. But this is the only mentioning the camera outside, not confirmed by other witnesses.

We know by now that there was yet another camera Zorky №55242643 owned by Dyatlov but it was not included into the February inventory.

Zolotarev’s body found in May also had a camera hanging on his neck.

The group was leaving the tent in great heist, so why one would bother to take his camera along? Most likely Zolotarev was not inside the tent at the moment. Unlike the rest of the group, his and Tibo’s bodies were found in May pretty much dressed. It is also logical to assume that at the moment of danger they both started their retreat immediately from the spot where they were at and had no time to go to the tent. The two separate pairs of footprints which joined the others  further on the slope support this assumption.

Some speculate it was Dyatlov’s camera on Zolotarev’s neck. Valentin Yakimenko, the fellow student and the member of the rescue team says it was Tibo’s. In any case the film from this camera must be under the snow for 3 month and at least 2 weeks in water (according to the coroner’s account). In fact, no one can confirm today that it was there at all and it was not jast the empty camera case hanging around his neck.

All films available today are cut in pieces. One of these pieces has an inscription ZOLOTAREV scribbled on it.  Considering that other films from cameras found in Februaty have no identifying inscriptions on them (like Slobodin, Krivonischenko), it is possible to guess that this piece was from the camera found on Zolotarev’s body and that it was of a particular interest for the investigation. The piece has 10 frames and it matches really well the last frame of another piece called the film №8. This film has pictures of the previous days (17 frames). Both pieces have no visible abrasion marks. 10 frames + 17 frames = 27 frames. The whole film has to be 36 frames, so 9 of them are missing. It might be that these 9 frames are available somewhere in the archives to which we have no access to.  There was nothing really significant on these frames. Just some tiny dots and spots on dark background. However Zolotarev kept taking pictures of the dark sky as if there was something interesting for him there. The piece was scanned and supersized 30 times.

See more of them here: https://yadi.sk/i/eb9r3UTgfaMej

The other pieces (not marked as ZOLOTAREV) also have some footage of the kind…

…and interestingly the different cameras probably took the same object at different time  because the  shots  are from two different film pieces (edges don’t match)…

According to the tests, the number of pictures taken  suggests that the duration of the whole phenomen was approximately 1,5 – 2 minutes. Zolotarev, probably, took 19 shots. The objects seemed to move in the direction of the Pass because the images get bigger. The biggest ones are discussed here.

If so, these objects were not dangerous for the group because they were around 200-300 kilometers far from them. Had they been closer they would have flown above the students just in seconds and thus there wouldn’t have been so many shots. No rocket could kept falling on the ground for so long because any cosmic body falls at a great speed. I doubt the students had time to find their cameras (somewhere in their backpacks), to jump out of the tent and take some pictures not mentioning being able to attach a camera to a tripod – all in few instances.

They could be dangerous I guess if they were controlled by somebody but this would make a totally dufferent story that doesn’t includes rockets or meteorites, for instance.

We also know that both the investigation and the rescue team used these cameras to take pictures during the search and in the morgue.

Slobodin’s shot.

It preceeds the photos of dead bodies in the morgue which means the whole film was developed and seen in March. This film today lacks 24 frames. It might be that the investigator Ivanov saw these frames and that is why he went to Moscow at the same period of time for possible consultations. Testimonies exsist that he came back to Sverdlovsk with no previuos enthusiasm for the investiagtion. His reasons for terminating the Criminal Case was “the unknown overwhelming force”. However many years later he has written an article about the event. The full text of it you can read in my book.

The question still remains ─ had Ivanov seen something that we can’t see today why haven’t he mentioned any particular shot in his article as an incontestable evidence?

My answer is also given in Don’t Go There: a solution to the Dyatlov Pass mystery by Svetlana Oss.


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4 Comments

  • these photos are very interesting in that they all look like what you might see on a dark/stormy/snowy night and you were seeing ball lightning. I am convinced that we who are still interested in this tragedy have not given enough time to studying ball lightning and its effects. (in 1959 no one knew about ball lightning and most stories were dismissed as hysteria — we now know ball lightning exists)

    Elsewhere on the web there is are several reports of what could easily be ball lightning in the same area — some of these reports are from the Russian military, others are from hikers — these are from different dates, showing that this happens in that area on a more regular basis than elsewhere. We know from the last 1/2 century of space exploration that the Earth is constantly in electrical turmoil, with lightning going off all over the planet’s surface. (there are other, better documented areas where people keep reporting strange lights in the sky and balls of light and etc, — for example Marfa, Texas.

    PLEASE ! If anyone knows why that “scientist’s village was abandoned — please email me at jdmwolfe@gmail.com — I note that some of the buildings there look finished but others look only 1/2 finished (some have windows and doors and roofs — at least one photo shows a half finished roof, under construction) see the photos of the “abandoned village” which are numbered differently in the slide show than in the list but the photos are the same (you can pause the slide show) the photos are at dyatlov-pass dot com — go to cameras then go to Krivonschenko’s camera .

    I live in a log house and so have a little some experience with log houses — these houses look like they were being built but then quickly abandoned with many only 1/2 built — they are not falling apart — you do not see collapsing roofs and walls — you see 1/2 built roofs and a few buildings framed in but no roof nor doors nor windows. Other buildings are completed.

  • John there are discussions about the possibility of ball lighting on Russian forums. Also several years ago this theory was presented at Dyatlov annual conference. I could provide you with some links later bs now I don’t have Russian keyboard layout (going to get it soon). As for the village – interesting, I will give it a thought. It was not a scientific village as far as I remember rather there lived labor workers.

  • Hi Svetlana, If you can, please send me any links you think I might like to see. In the books I’ve read and the internet sites I’ve seen there are numerous references to the village being a “geologist’s village” and/or a “scientist’s village” (see photos of drilling cores, in the photos mentioned in my previous post) — yes there are laborers, but they are doing the work decided upon by the scientists (geologists and engineers in this village) This is a fairly well developed, but small, village and exploration site — for investigation that drills cores into the ground — so we know they already found something (minerals or gems or, more likely, various rare metals, used in industry) Still, these are nice houses being built, so my question is what drove them to “abandon” the village in the first place — we all know that there are various perks for party officials, and “scientists” of various types — if nothing else this looks like it would make good summer Dashas or a tourist resort (or maybe its too remote) But what I know of scientists and engineers and etc, they would not abandon a project 1/2 way through unless there was a good reason. Now I grant that a good reason could be that some committee in Moscow changed its mind or that there was a change in Soviet industrial needs — but still — the reports of Mansi being killed by some mysterious phenomena within recent memory — and if there were also some of the group doing mineral/metals exploration who were killed or injured or even just frightened by the same poorly understood phenomena ? (ball lightning ? ) Anyway I do think that this “abandoned” village will provide some answers — and I’m betting that somewhere in Soviet archives is that answer. I do NOT think there is any secret government experiments or mysterious creatures or any other nonsense — just plain, but interesting electrical phenomena. In fact, I think this village would be a good place (Dyatlov Pass area) to set up a long term study of lightning phenomena — the Soviet government has the answers to the question of why they abandoned the village — but they just don’t know it.

  • Hi Svetlana, if you sent me any links, I did not find them in my email ( jdmwolfe@gmail.com ) Also, continuing the discussion from the above comment: the “abandoned village” is fairly large and not just one or two structures — but really is a village in size. This implies a fairly large-scale operation. I would think the Soviet Government would have some records of this and what they were doing there. What did they drill for? What did they find? There are no photos of equipment so the drilling equipment was removed. I still am convinced that natural phenomena caused the deaths an instilled a sense of panic on otherwise very intelligent advanced students — people who otherwise do not panic. I went to a technical institute in the USA and know this — these kind students are not the kind to panic — unless, the saw a phenomena that they understood was dangerous and life threatening. This same phenomena would cause engineers and scientists to leave the village in a hurry — thus the abandoned look of a half finished / half built village which is not falling down. The answer can be found — if the comments of these scientists and engineers can be found. I think you could find out who was there (a project head engineer who might make the decision to abandon the village only half built. I looks like the engineers were planning to make this a permanent work location but left in a hurry —

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